[FUG-BR] Fw: Few reasons to stay with BSD

Paulo Henrique paulo.rddck em bsd.com.br
Terça Março 25 20:40:17 BRT 2014


Virtualbox+geli(gstripe(gmirror +gmirror))  simplesmente sem comparação, claro que adoraria usar xen como dom0 mais o FreeBSD não suporta e netbsd é muito underground para mim!!

Contudo tenho 9 vms sobre o VBox+FreBSD e estou satisfeito!! 

Att. Paulo Henrique 

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>Muito interessante. O pkg veio para substituir o pkg_* então, ví isso por
>aqui na lista mesmo.
>E sobre o Virtualbox no FreeBSD, como fica a performace?  Utilizei ele
>muito rodando em Debian para ambientes de testes.
>Hoje em dia, apesar de ter menos recursos, utilizo o XEN no NetBSD para
>virtualização, nada a reclamar.
>
>
>On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:11 AM, Márcio Elias <marcioelias em gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ao ler este e-mail, até senti orgulho do meu trabalho...:D
>>
>> --
>> Att.
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>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Nilton Jose Rizzo <rizzo em i805.com.br
>> >wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >   Desculpem-me o cross-post mas vale a pena ler
>> >
>> > Rizzo
>> > ---------- Mensagem Encaminhada -----------
>> > De:Sergio de Almeida Lenzi <lenzi.sergio em gmail.com>
>> > Para:freebsd-ports em freebsd.org
>> > Enviada:Mon, 24 Mar 2014 17:07:04 -0300
>> > Assunto:Few reasons to stay with BSD
>> >
>> > FreeBSD is still much better,
>> >
>> > until 7.X there was pkg_*  for a system with few
>> > packages ( less than 100) it worked. but
>> > as the system goes beyound 1000 packages, pkg_* becomes
>> > very slow, and broken.
>> >
>> > pkg, solved the problem, of working with freebsd if you work
>> > WITH pkg, and not against.
>> >
>> > See my case, for example, I have hundreds of users, that runs
>> > 8.X, 9.X and now 10.X. all of them uses gnome 2.32 and software
>> > written from gtk2, glade2, python2....  The system have more than
>> > 1000 packages, last count shows 1032.. and are updated once a
>> > week, everything works..   Some of them uses windows software
>> > that now runs on Virtualbox under FreeBSD.
>> >
>> > I have my OWN server (indeed, 2) for 9.X and 10.X, and all the other
>> > servers
>> > do is pkg upgrade -y  sometimes they update about 1GB (in the case of
>> > libconv, for example)
>> > and everything works as expected..
>> >
>> > If I used pkg_*  plus portupgrade or portmaster in each server, that
>> > woud be
>> > impossible to mantain..  pkg really made FreeBSD usable  for hundreds of
>> > servers.
>> >
>> > I have some linux on notebooks, that now the FreeBSD have KMS, are
>> > being
>> > moved to FreeBSD too.
>> > On the notebooks (using archlinux), kernel 3.12.3 the notebooks must
>> > have a
>> > "cold start"  from time to time (once a day), if not, the disk access
>> > becomes too slow
>> > to the point it is useless.. so a cold start resolv the problem..
>> > besides, the software layout
>> > that is now all in /usr/bin, the inittab is now systemd, the syslog is
>> > journal... and the
>> > file system is still ext4, as zfs for inux is not for production yet..
>> >
>> > Today, as the machines are powerfull,  you can buy an 32 core system
>> > with
>> > 1TB of memory, 12TB of disk for less than US$10,000.  What you will
>> > do???
>> > Install windows 8??  no way, windows 2012??? microsoft says it is
>> > unstable,
>> > 2008??? perhaps, 2003?? phased out..
>> >
>> > how many users will you put in an Microsoft OS??  at what price???
>> >
>> > A FreeBSD server running several windows 2008, can handle 200 users (20
>> > users per OS)
>> > using Virtualbox and ISCSI.  Never stops, never breaks, you can buy ONE
>> > windows 2008 and
>> > install the other 99 by cloning the machine.  Here the EULA says I must
>> > use ONE windows 2008
>> > licence in ONE machine,  does not mention what to do if I  Activate 100
>> > time the SAME image of  an OVA.  or VHD.
>> > (the same for windows 2012).
>> >
>> > Linux is good???  for sure!!, but FreeBSD+ZFS is better..
>> >
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